Napypy disposal?

Napypy disposal?

by: tilly - 17-07-09 04:31

Can anyone tell me how they deal with their nappy (and sanitary) disposal?  Looking to set up contracts with supplier such as cannon but have come across websites that advise this waste is NOT classed as clinical/hazardous and not to be duped into taking out a contract for this.  Apparently it can go into your regular waste.  I do currently use a service provider for removal of nappy waste at one of my settings but the service is poor, staff are rude, charges are extortionate and they do not stick to agreed pick up time and always call at the busiest times...

by: tilly

apologies for typo, clearly I meant nappy disposal, forgive me after all it is 4.30am....

by: Maestro

You will need clinical waste disposal.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/waste/topics/clinical.htm

There are hundreds of companies out there that do ths sort of thing. Business's are finding it tough these days so ring up and get haggling. Ask for a years contract to try them before commiting or even less if you can wangle it. Ours is collected on a monthly basis, it use to be weekly but the bin is big enough to cope with a month and there is never any smell. The time they call is random but its just a signature they require so it does not matter.

New start up companies may offer really cheap services but one day they just disappear!! Companies like Cannon and PHS will push for 3 year contracts, although the customer service on the phone for Cannon is diabolical.

by: Maestro

Actually just re-read a bit more carefully. Ring Defra for clarificaiton -

"Human hygiene or sanpro waste can sometimes be produced in large quantities in places such as schools, nurseries and motorway service areas. Although such wastes from these sources may be non-hazardous, in quantity they can be offensive and cause handling problems. In these cases, where the premises generate more than one standard bag or container of human hygiene waste over the usual collection interval, it is considered appropriate to package it separately from other waste streams."

It would depend how they define "container" as a bin might be deemed as a container. We produce 5 bags a week, 4 more than their declared bag but it would fit in our bin with normal waste with no overspill.

Also check with your refuse collection as sometimes when you sign the agreement, you sign to say you wont put specific items in the bin, this might be clinical waste.

I would personally read Defra's terms as you do need a seperate waste bin. Ring them up and the refuse people and find out for definate. Let me know as I will swap too! :-)

by: lollysmum

All of my current settings waste is collected in standard nappy bins and then those bags are placed inside bin bags and put into the regular bin, but at a setting where I trained they paid a company to dispose of such waste.  Is my current setting doing something wrong then? On average we dispose of around sixty nappies in a day, being routinely changed on average three times, plus extras.

by: Maestro

Someone should ring Defra to find out, I will do it on Monday as I'm really curious!

by: Lolo

Some settings give nappies back to the parents!  Perhaps for this reason.

Or you could encourage parents to use reuseable nappies, even it is just for the time the children are in nursery.  Some local authorities offer up to £50 to purchase nappies, or the nursery could maybe sign up to a laundering service?  You could sell it as being greener, and you could cost out the savings. 

by: purepurple

 Our nappies go in with the rubbish. They are in binbags and get collected with the rest of the rubbish. It has been that way since the nursery opened years ago.

We have a contract company that collects the sanitary waste from the 'lady bin'.

The last company I worked for had  a seperate collection for nappies. They had to go in a yellow clinical waste bag and in a seperate bin outside that was emptied by the contractor.

by: Maestro

Well the answer is...

Nobody knows! Any answer is a bit sketchy and non conclusive! Typical.

Anyone else got a better response? I'm being pushed around the different agencies. I've gone for Defra --> Environment Agency --> Department of Health --> Defra!!

by: joshuajones

Our go into the waste bins with everything else, no special waste collection.

by: Maestro

Do you tiger bag them JJ? or just black bags?

How are you, you seem to have been in hiding recently?

RE: RE: Napypy disposal? - 20-07-09 15:30

by: joshuajones

Hi Maestro, no we just black bag them !! But we use these sangenic disposal systems in the nursery so they are all double bagged.

I'm well thanks been on holiday, and suprisingly not had anything to say !!!  

by: tilly

Opened a can of worms then....  the reason I asked was that on another site someone had posted about this and said dont be ripped off by companies as they try to get you to sign up for these lucrative contracts and that you can put nappies in with your usual waste.    Will try to find out more, when get a minute..

by: tilly

Looking good, spoke to the company who collect wastes at my setting and seems that it can go in with the regular waste.  Been advised not to put in tiger bags just regualr black bags.  Can't wait to cancel my contract with 'specialist' collector, just hope they call me to ask why!!

by: starfleur

im surprised that you do not have to dispose of nappies as you would hazardous waste as it is a body product and you can pick up bugs from it such as hepetitis and even polio,as the polio vaccine is active in the babies poo for 21 days after vaccine (not sure if its present in urine).

to me it just seems safer and more hygienic to have it collected from a specialist who can safely get rid of it.

by: Maestro

Starfleur if you read the defra website it gives information about the hazardness of the waste.

RE: RE: Napypy disposal? - 22-07-09 07:41

by: starfleur

just doesnt seem right (even if defra say its not necessary) to me. in terms of health and hygiene. when i was studying health and safety as part of the nvq3 i rememb3r reading in the course book that all body waste had to be put in yellow clinical waste bags and collected by people who can have it incinerated it (not sure of spelling)

by: scarlett

I was always told by my early years team that all nurseries had to dispose of nappies separately as clinical waste, so weve always paid to have them removed in the yellow bags.

by: tilly

I have also paid to have mine collected, unecessarily so it would seem. If you think about it logically, what do you when at home?  You put your own childs nappys in the bin with all your other household waste.  The only difference is that they are generated in large volumes at a setting.

by: mickey

some one is being ripped off, me thinks

by: Sheila21

In my area environmental health ask to see proof of removal of waste.... (Birmingham). 

If anybody can get a definite answer out of a government source (date/time/name of person who said), then please post it hear so we can save money and put it into resources - need some new outdoor equpment....