by: ECRSA - 10-09-12 18:56
Im just wondering what everybodies view is on the following;
Last Monday we were told by our managemnet that a qualified cant be left alone with a unqualified. Only a level 2 can be left with level 3 or higher. So we had a week from hell even though we only have 3 unqualified people in our nursery.
This morning (a week later) I was told that if there is 8 or less children in the room a qualified and unqualified can be left alone together. Is this also happening in other settings?
What is your view on sending a child from the 2-3yr old room to the 3-4yr old room (Pre School) because Pre School is quiet or getting breaks and lunches done or because the 2-3yr old room will be over ratio? I don't mind helping the other rooms in my setting, but this now happening more and more and some times for really long periods during the day. Doe this happen in other settings aswell?
RE: Ratio's.... - 10-09-12 19:56
by: Ashley Williams
Anybody interested in working in a British nursery in Spain?
RE: Ratio's.... - 10-09-12 21:59
RE: Ratio's.... - 10-09-12 22:24
by: Tiggy D
I hear working in British nurseries in Spain gives you lurgi.
I hear they make you eat roast donkey every day.
250 British nursery workers in Spain had their kidneys removed while they slept.
I hear some British nurseries in Spain are too cheap to pay for an advert.
RE: Ratio's.... - 12-09-12 10:44
Tiggy D - This made me laough out loud!
BUT....to help with the first post from ECRSA...
The revised EYFS states ( as does the old one) that there has to be a level 3 member of staff and half of all other staff should have a level 2 - so half can be unqualified.
I think it's acceptable to have a level 3 and an unqualified for part of the day, ie early or late, but for the main part of the day there should be a level 2 with the level 3. Remember that managers no longer need to be supernumary ( Grrrr ) so the manager would be on hand to help if needed.
Hope this helps!
RE: Ratio's.... - 13-09-12 15:01
im confused. does this mean i cant work with an unqualified apprentice all day?
RE: Ratio's.... - 14-09-12 12:04
IF you are only looking after the exact number of children for you alone...let's say 8 three year olds, then your unqualified assistant would just be an extra pair of hands so that would be fine, BUT if you look after any more than 8 then my interpretation is that you should have a level 2 with you.
What happens when you have a break? or at the begining or end of the day...do other level 3's cover your children then?
RE: Ratio's.... - 16-09-12 15:52
by: Katharine Hinds-Payne
Feeling jealous of your ratios!!
40 3-4 year olds (40 a.m., 40 p.m.) 1 teacher, 1 nursery nurse & 2 level 1 TAs.
Welcome to the hell that is nurseries attached to schools!
RE: Ratio's.... - 16-09-12 20:04
That is the drawback of having all 4 year olds start full time school....with our nursery ration of 1-8,they suddenly are exposed to your ratio of 1-10 or more....I still think some 4 year olds could wait until they are 5.....totally depends on the child....Sweden have the right idea....their results speak for themselves.
RE: Ratio's.... - 16-09-12 20:21
the apprentice is in ratio however i cant leave her unattended. also no one covers her breaks,ii have all 16 children to myself. if i get a break i am covered by a level 2 or 3 staff
RE: Ratio's.... - 24-09-12 22:07
by: kaz (the first one!)
Apprentices should not be in ratio!
RE: Ratio's.... - 25-09-12 05:47
16-1 is illegal...
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