Becoming a nursery owner

Becoming a nursery owner

by: hayleybeale - 06-06-07 13:11

Hello it has been a dream of mine for years now of owning a nursery with my old school friend. when i left school i worked in a nursery but only for 2 years, plus i did it as work experience, that is really the only experience i have. my friend is currently studying early childhood studies at University and next year will have completed that. Can any of you wonderful ladies tell me how to go about it, i have had a few emails from google but is all still confusing. do you know what qualifications i need and also what training i will have to go through to make my dream happen. many thanks.

by: veb

Firstly you need to decide what "nursery" means to you. Is that day care? Pre-school Playgroup? Local church hall? Self build? House conversion? How big - what age range? How much do you have to spend????????!!!!!!
Once deciding all these factors - do your research - whats in the area already? How much are they charging? What are they offering? What are you going to do differently? Is there a need for another provision or is there a gap in the market?
Get in touch with your local authority - in my area that would be "Young in Herts" - but every area has early years development officers who's role it is to support new and exisiting provision.
Good luck!

Becoming a nursery owner - 06-06-07 23:24

by: hillika

Hi Hayleybeale
Opening a nursery is not for the faint hearted, but for the dedicated, determined & strong willed. You can open your own nursery even if you do not have the qualifications, but you must have a qualified manager in place.
It took me 2 years from looking for a place, to getting planning for change of use, buying, renovating, going through building control & finally getting registration from Ofsted. During this time you will be constantly spending money! In fact, you will be spending money before you even get the keys to your nursery! The location has to be right, there is no point in opening a nursery off the beaten track where you will not attract clients & then you will most likely find the perfect location but the local planning department will be sucking through their teeth trying to give reasons to refuse this. After you have fought through all the red tape, don't expect this to be an easy, nice little earner because you will have to work your butt off for at least the first year without taking a salary for yourself/selves (unless you are very lucky to find a place where there are no other nurseries near & a line of potential families wanting to use your services from day one)
For a nursery to sustain 2 owners, you will be looking for a building that will hold many children. Although you can have a high monthly income, monthly outgoings can be equally as high & become capped when you reach your maximum of places taken.
I,m sorry that I sound so negetive, I don't mean to be, but, this is something that you have to go into with your eyes wide open. Having all said & done, it is the most rewarding thing you will ever achieve if it is done right.
Please don't let me put you off, I would encourage anyone to do it, it's fantastic! & I wish I had done it a lot sooner than I did. Your reputation plays a vital part in the success of your nursery, so go out of your way to provide that something special that other nurseries do not provide. Above all, make sure that you do your research & plan your advertising in advance ensuring that families know that you are opening & when, then try your best to keep to this dead line. Oh, & allow time for your registration to come through. Ofsted are a bugger when it come to sending your certificate to you!

Wish you the best of luck, follow your dream!!!

Becoming a nursery owner - 07-06-07 18:23

by: scarlett

The hardest part of running a nursery (or any business) is managing the staff.
Try and get onto some sort of management course, you could ask the local early years team if they have any courses.
I also agree about ofsted taking their time, I had to pay 3 months rent before I received the certificate from ofsted (and you are not allowed to operate until you have it in your hand)
I have my dream job though, I manage my own nursery work 4 very long days and have a day off. The pay is not the best in the world though as you need to pay your staff and other overheads first.
The down side is all the paperwork of running a business and not being able to "play" with the children (as stuck in the office 99% of the time)
Good luck..

Becoming a nursery owner - 11-06-07 09:46

by: hayleybeale

Thank you for your advice i know it is going to be very hard work and i really want to do it. I have been trying to research as much as i can but is very hard while doing afull time job and also looking after the kids that is why me and my friend are going in this together. I would really appreciate as much advice as you have as it will very much help me out. thanks again

Becoming a nursery owner - 23-06-07 19:35

by: dimples1988

My name is Kerry. Although young, I have great ambitions of opening my own nursery for 0-5 year olds. I have no idea f the process to which I must follow, although I have vast childcare and nursery experience already. I'm very desperate to get in contact with someone who has undertaken the process andcan guide me through personally. Ie, how to get finacial support ideas etc. I need a bit of support to get me on the right track! I am very determined.

Becoming a nursery owner - 23-06-07 19:58

by: joshuajones

Hi dimples,
I have opened my own and have opened and set up 2 private nurseries for large corporations. I would be happy to help. Post your e mail address and I will be more than happy to get in touch.

Becoming a nursery owner - 16-07-07 13:19

by: hayleyrobbins

Hello,
I am very keen to set up my own nursery...in the future. I am just about to go to college and gain my 'Early Years Foundation Degree' but I am worrid about the change that will be happening in 2010. You will then be only able to run a nursery with a dregree, what happens if you already have a nursery? And also, is there anyway of running a nursery without having a degree and just the Foundation degree? I would be also very grateful for any information regarding setting up a nursery. Thanks.

Becoming a nursery owner - 17-07-07 21:40

by: sweet_female

The propriator at our Nursery School does not have a degree, she has done a management course and employs a Nursery Manager to deal with the day to day running of the Nursery, however it doesn't seem easy as she is constantly in dealing with pay/children/staff problems which inevitably arise in a Nursery full of women...infact this seems to be the hardest issue...

Becoming a nursery owner - 18-07-07 15:09

by: hayleyrobbins

Okay thanks for ithe information. I just wondered what people were going to do who run a nursery who dont have a degree? Does a foundation degree count??
And i know all about how hard it is to work with just women..i went to an all girls boarding school for 7 years!!

Becoming a nursery owner - 21-07-07 13:21

by: maysha

Hello I am planning to set up my own nursery. I am fully qualified to work with children. I have worked as a Social Worker for 8 years. I have worked with children, also in nurseries, for 7 years. I would like some more information on how to set up a nursery. If It is better to buy a property or existing nursery or to rent a property. What step do I take first? All advise that can be given will be much appreciated. Regards

Becoming a nursery owner - 26-07-07 10:28

by: NurseryInsurance

Hi

I don't know a great deal about what qualifications and/or experience you actually need to set up a nursery but we actually insure quite a few nurseries throughout the UK and having spoken to them over the years I wrote a few articles about avoiding the common mistakes when setting up a nursery.

Not sure I can post a URL here so if you'd like a link send me an email to markb@northerncounties.com

Becoming a nursery owner - 02-08-07 12:37

by: laineyreidy

Hi, I have myself been a manger and opened and set up a whole host of settings. It is very confusing as to what to to and where to go for advice. I now work for a company called Parenta we offer a wide range of products, training and consultancy that can help you get on you way. Please visit www.parenta.com for more information.

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 12-05-09 00:28

by: joy

i would be grateful if you can send a link to my email: kidmove@hotmail.co.uk Regards

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 03-09-07 16:42

by: shezmin

Hi, would you mind telling me about your experience in the chilcare business and how you've come to set up your own nurseries? my email address is shezminmadhani@hotmail.co.uk. Im a graduate in chemistry and want to go into chilcare, im not sure how to go about it. Thanks

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 24-03-08 11:31

by: Shaba

Hi Joshua,

 

My name is Sabina, I have always wanted to have my own nursery and find working with children highly rewarding.

 

Though I am currently in Marketing - I'm not making as much money as I could be and always go home with a sore head!  However, I had worked in a kindergarten in the Middle East for just under 2 years and have had a huge level experience working with family and friends children.  Hence my decission to work with children.

 

I do not have any qualifications in Child care but I do know people who do and would be happy to work with me on this.

 

All said and done, I really need some sort of guidance / advice and you seem to have done well for yourself in this, so would you mind giving me a bit of advice / help on this?

Would you be so good as to give me a miss-call /leave a message on my mobile no: 07908 207 831 and I will call you back.

 

I would sincerely appreciate this and look forward to hearing from you. 

 

Regards ~ Sabina 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 31-03-08 20:45

by: Julie

Hi joshuajones,

not sure whether this will get to you since it's been a while since you posted this but I thought I'd try anyway. I am a student writing a business plan for a nursery and I thought it would be helpful to discuss this with someone who has some practical experience. I have a few questions, would you be happy to answer them?
Thanks.

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 13-07-11 21:36

by: victoria wright

i am also needing help to write a buisness plan please vickimynard@msn.com

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 17-05-08 15:20

by: Mariam

Hi Joshua,

Today is the first time that I came across this site.  I read few forums, of great interest and your comments are always so encouraging, useful.

I done a basic childminder course, then a distance  learning Level 3 Diploma in childcare.  I have been looking for the right premises to open a nursery in south london for nearly 2 years.  Some of them were unaffordable rent, or given to experienced nursery owners, I have been missing my chance.

I am still employed as a civil servant in city of London, and recently started undergraduate course of Leadership & Management, as I was having no luck of starting my own nursery.

Last week I came across a premises which is still under negociation with landlord, and I started looking at my business plan again. Since this morning I am reading these informative forums, and I really can't wait to make a start.

I will most probably use this forums for help, its useful network with people of same interest.  Can't ask you for help or advice to set up my nursery. Please contact me on e-mail maali19@gmail.com

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 24-11-08 00:49

by: positive

hi i was just reading your post and i to was intrested in opening a day nursery, like with everything in life we all need help, so if you dont mind just explain to me as far as i need to know thanks

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 17-01-09 19:53

by: Milan

Hi Josuha

I am currently in my final yr at uni studying Estate Management Practice...How ever I would like to own my own nurser. I have looked at many site fo advice on what may be need to get started however I would like to get some advice from someone who has current experience in the field...My email address is CharleneNelson@hotmail.co.uk

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 01-02-09 07:57

by: sweety

hi,

i want to open my own nursery and am looking for smeone who can advise me on....

is it possible if u could email me at thilagasivam2004@yahoo.com

thanks

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 07-02-09 03:56

by: tammy

hi can you email me some info on setting up a nursery i am in the same possition as dimples

many thanks for your help

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 07-02-09 20:20

by: frances. begyinah

Hi ,

Am very impressed with your profile and i wonder whther you could could give me some advice re buying a already esablished nusery in london my email is frances.begyinah@hotmail.com

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 10-02-09 02:11

by: Helpful

hi joshuajones,

I have great ambitions of opening my own nursery for 0-5 year olds. I have no idea f the process to which I must follow, although I'm very desperate to get in contactntact with someone who has undertaken the process andcan guide me through personally. Ie, how to get finacial support ideas etc. I need a bit of support to get me on the right track! I am very determined.

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 08-04-09 13:07

by: lydmac

Hi I am very interested in opening my own nursery and wanted to ask you for whatever infomation you can give me regarding this.

my email is lef.macdonadl@hotmail.co.uk

thank you so much

 

lydia macdonald

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 12-05-09 00:20

by: joy

hi joshuajones, i would appreciate it, if you can guide me through opening my own nursery, presently i am a registered childminder, under going a degree course on childhood studies. i have successfully completed NVQ3 in Children's Care, Learning & Development. my email is kidmove@hotmail.co.uk i read your encouraging reply to dimples on Becoming a nursery owner dated 23-06 07.

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 26-05-09 22:54

by: Amore

Hi Joshuajones,

I am very passionate of having my own nursery since young age. Can you also help me with some tips and clues? my email address is whyr@hotmail.com. other helpers also welcome!

Big thank you!

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-08-09 14:57

by: GINUCI

Hi Joshua,

Am not sure if u still around and willing to enlighten ppl like myself who want to open a nursery but have no idea where to start! if you do, please email me on ginuca@gmail.com

Thank you!

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 08-11-09 09:41

by: Louise Fox

Hi Joshua

I'm an early years teacher and am thinking about setting up my own nursery. I'm unsure where to start and would be grateful of any info you could give me on finance, best place to start and funding available .

Thanks

Louise

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 24-11-09 01:03

by: Michael Simms

Hi

my partner and i are planning to open a nursery and we really dont know where to start but are very determine. i came across your message to Dimples about helping out, i will appreciate if you can help us to fulfill our dream. i have posted my email address.

Thanks

Michael 

ps

email: mnsimms@googlemail.com 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 30-10-10 12:16

by: Reenie Blessed

Hi Joshua i see you have sucessfully opened up your early years setting and i too have the same great idea, i would be greatful  if you could share with me some routes to take how to go about setting it etc.

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 16-03-11 23:32

by: Riffit Arfan

Hi, i want to open my own private nursery what will i have to do.  i am not experienced myself but will keep all experienced staff.

Please email me how and  i can open one.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            work                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 27-05-11 16:06

by: Julija Gokovaite

Hello, my name is Julia and I have noticed your post that you have opened two private nurseries. I would like to get some advice from you as I'm a young woman who is very determened to open up a private nursery. I would be greatful if you reply to jgokovaite@yahoo.com

Thank you

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 02-06-11 11:02

by: PRITI SACHDEV

Hi

I am looking into opening a nursery however i really need a starting point.  i have aproperty and location in mind so i just need to get started - help!

Joshuajones - please could you kindly get in touch with me? my email is priti_popat@hotmail.com

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 13-07-11 21:33

by: victoria wright

hi just read your reply and would be gratefull if u would send me some info also thank you xx

 

vickimynard@msn.com

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-08-11 21:01

by: laura Soogreen

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-10-11 13:59

by: rhian edwards

Hi, I am currently a manager of a private nursery and feel I need to break away and do something for myself.  Im 26 and have been at this position for 6 years.  I have no idea where to start and would really appreciate some help.  I am fully aware of the determination and patience needed in able to succeed within this line of work.

Thanks

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 21-10-11 14:34

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Rhian

 Send me an email and I will answer your questions and send you some free advice: carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk It is not an easy job but can be very rewarding we have 2 day nurseries and are thinking of opening a third. Good LucK!

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 05-02-12 13:01

by: alejandra montoya

hi there, i am a qualified nurseru nurse, did the CACHE level 3 and i have child care experience, i am looking to open my own nursery in  south london but i really need your advice please. i speak spanish and english so i would like it to be a bilingual nursery.....please get back to me with some advice if you canjoshuajones. do i need to also have a degree?...j-maria@hotmail.co.uk

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 11-04-12 21:28

by: sutheblue

hi joshua

could you please give me some information about you setting up two private nursery for large corporation

this is also what i am trying to do. i would be grateful if u could share your experience

regards

su

sutheblue@gmail.com

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-04-12 23:30

by: angie marinou

hi my name is angie i am at the start of building my own nursery ive got the planning permission and now the worlds my oyster i would like to pick your brains where do i start is there anygrant/funding that i can apply for the start up cost how would i do a business plan and where can i get equipment i would so greatfull if you could just guilde me in the right direction angie

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-04-12 23:41

by: angie marinou

hi it angie my email is angiemarinou@hotmail.com sorry forgot to put it on other message

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 24-04-12 11:37

by: Obi

Hello Joshua,i saw your reply for Dimples.please i do need all the help i can get.am also trying to setup a nursery in aberdeen,have been doing my research but hav not got enough idea.please my email address is obi_joy@yahoo.co.uk i really will appreciate your help.

 

Thanks

Joy

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 30-04-12 09:49

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Obi and anyone else wanting to set up a day nursery, just get in touch and I will email you lots of free advice, I have been running two successful day nurseries  for 14 year and I am in the process of opening a third. Email : carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk

KInd regards

Carol

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 30-06-12 13:13

by: Dario Blake

Good afternoon Joshua 

A qiuck scan through this forum shows your services have become much desired. We (Destiny 2 Education Project) would like to add ourselves to that list. At present we are a group of experienced teachers who run a supplementary school and would like to progress to running our own full time nursery.

We would very much appreciate assistance from you. Our Email address is: admin@destiny2educ-proj.org

Thank you in advance. 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 08-12-12 21:42

by: ayo dada

Hi

We just read your post and we wondering if we can speak to you, we thinking of owning our own private buisness , as i worked with housing association and my mrs also a speach therapist, we would love to start our own daycare.

My number is 07900486338 Dee is my Name thanks

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 09-03-13 18:37

by: netsai Kachuru

Hie I am in the same situation I would to start up a nursey but mine will be a small one as i would like to do it at the back of my house. May you please help me with all the necessary information. My email adress is netsi08@yahoo.co.uk 

Thank you 

Netsai kachuru

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 11-05-13 22:14

by: SIOBHAN REECE

HEY JOSHUA WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME HELP IN OPENING UP MY OWN NURSERY 

SIOBHAN-P@HOTMAIL.CO.UK

 

THANKS M\ATE

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 01-02-09 07:50

by: sweety

hi kerry,

same as u...am also planning to open a nursery for myself....but am confised abt how to go abt doing it as well....thr research,i found the least cost  is thr lease/rent a place rather then buying a exisitng one...

thanks

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 13-04-12 23:56

by: Margos

Hi Hayleybeale,

NDNA have some excelelnt advice to offer: http://www.ndna.org.uk/advice-information/publications/starting-your-nursery.

Another way of researching your dream is by networking at events such as Happy Talk: Language and Communication in the Early Years in Nottingham on May 12th. (see Nursery World Events)

Every success,

Margaret

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 24-11-07 12:59

by: student

Hi Hillka,

Your business sounds great you are very brave and lucky !

I wonder could you maybe give me some advice ? I am studing childcare and early years education at the moment but only at NC level (as this is a total change of career for me). I have come across a business opportunity, a nursery near me is closing down and no other facility opening. I would like to open the facility to replace this but i am unsure of how to go about this and who i should contact. To do this and own a nursery would i need to have any qualifications or like you could i just employ an education manager or such ? My intention would be that i would conduct the everyday business and running of establishment and maybe work on to achieve a higher qualification and i would employ some one to run the education and childcare area, do you think this would work ? Could you maybe point me in the direction of who i could contact to help me with this ?

Many thanks

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 10-02-08 23:25

by: deniz

hi,

My name is Deniz and i am a montessori teacher for 5 years,i worked as a pre-school teacher and i also have worked with babies in a private nursery in Camden-Regents park.

i really want to open my own montessori school-nursery but i do not know how to start or how to start.l i have found a lovely church hall in north london area ,(i have searched some information about the area, there are 2 nurseries) now i do not know what to do,or i even do not how much i need to open a nursey!

Could you please guide me, what to do or how  to start! i hope to hear from you... Thank you for your help and sharing your experiences with us..

Kind Regards,

Deniz Gonzalez

denizgonzalez0578@yahoo.co.uk

07988246877 

 

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 27-11-08 21:41

by: meg

hi im jan.

i was hopeing somebody would help me out? i always wanted to open my own nursery it has always been a dreanm of mine but dont know wear to go from now i have just finshed betc in health and social care level 3 but i dont want to work in the nursery but will i need any qualifications and ware do i start? my boyfriend said i should ring bussine link and ask how to set a plan?  please help hillika or anyone please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 28-11-08 21:25

by: meg

hi veb im jan

and was hopeing you would helpe out? it has always wanted to open my own nursery but never knew how to do it  know the basic but dindnt know if i need any qualifiactions and what are the most important thing to do first? could u please help me out it would mean a lot please thank you hope to hear from you soon

by: Jane

Hello,

Have you tried contacting your local authority to see if there are any courses in your area.

Or you could take an online course in becoming a nursery manager.

Jane 

www.inst.org/nursery-management-courses 

by: loobyloo

Hi i  just wondered of anyone could help with my query.. i am planning on opening a nursery but dont have a degree.. i have read that in 2010 you can only open/ run a anursery if you have one... is this true?!

Cheers, loobyloo

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 30-11-07 17:11

by: Margos

Check out my ideas for starting your business on www.proceedc.com.

Regards

Margos

by: hillika

Hi Loobyloo

I have my own nursery and do not intend to study for my degree. I do have a assistant manager who will be doing the degree and will always be there. I can hear people say 'but what if she leaves?' If this happens then I will employ another graduate unless any of my other staff wish to study for this, and take a step up the ladder.

 I understand some peoples convusion regarding my decision but my reason for this is: I opened up my business to relieve me of some of the stress of working for someone else, when you had to be at work at a certain time to do a certain shift. I never had any time to be with my son and of course this has contiued whilst my nursery was set up and filled up. Not to take away from the fact that I saw so many people set up nurseries and do it very badly and was determind to to do the same. 

Now with a great team behind me it runs very smoothly. I can now reduce my hours, and (after the hard work) have a nice 'work life balance'. I do not want to continue to work 10 hours per day 5 days per week and sit down to paper work every week end. I don't think having a degree will improve my practice or make my nursery any better (as I set the bar high when I started) or teach me much more than I know now! I continue do short courses, to keep up with best practice and I am constantly sending my staff on any course that is made available to them.

 Mr Tesco does not sit at the till pushing shopping through does he? I will not always be available every day so I will be providing someone who will!

I must be doing something right because after only 18 months I am having to extend my nursery to acomodate the parents wanting to place their children with me. 

Unless I have been badly informed, I don't think I am doing it wrong, I am meeting the criteria of have a graduate within my setting who is in a senior position and who will either be available when I am there or when I am not. At the young age of 44, why the hell would I want to go back to school!!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 28-05-08 14:12

by: sianhug1

hi hillika! i found your post a great inspiration and think you have a great attitude which is why i'm choosing to ask you this question.  Ok here goes.  I'm a flight attendant with no childcare experience except for having a little boy of my own. Ok thats the worst part. For years and years i have been looking into possible business ventures (mostly property developement ideas that never came to anything) since having my baby I am more determind than ever to secure a comfortable future for my family and am passionate about child development/behaviours etc which lead me to this idea.  Basically what i'm asking is am i crazy to think that I would stand a chance of making a success of this seeing as I am A. Not qualified in the slightest and B. Have no experience in the field? I am however a very strong willed individual and know I would give it my best shot. Would you mind emailing me with some advice? its reed_sian@hotmail.com I understand you are incredibly busy but would love to hear more about how you got set up.  Thanks. 

 

 

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 01-06-08 09:06

by: Annie

Hi to anyone wanting to become a nursery owner. Did this myself and owned and ran two nurseries , though I only ever wanted the one. I wanted to produce the very best of childcare in an innovative way - after 12 years in social services and with a social work qualification behind me this became a burning urge. In the 18 years of running my own establishments I had to develop sideways to achieve my goals - I had to set up as a training centre for NVQ3 and for 'Setting up your own nursery', management training etc in order to achieve my standards of care.This meant that I never had one year the same as the next and won several awards for 'best quality'. I sold my nurseries 2 years ago and now I am available as a consulatnat for a very reasonabl;e rate but only to people I am satisfied have the same high standards and do not wish to cut corners in order to maximise profits. Interested? contact me on

davanne16@aol.com       Annie

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 24-08-09 15:30

by: PMG

Hi Hillika,

well said.. I am almost scared by people who shout about their degrees and it seems like a first step to ever start doing something you want.have a big degree to show off.. I am an engineer and MBA and I know how little I have used  my technical prowess in my job compared to common sense and people skills anda m sure lots of people will agree. 

I am currently doing research on several areas in surrey and middlesex where there is a demand for a nursery setting.

 Let me know if you know of a good way of finding this out. Currently, I am pouring over some county audits and planning to get in touch with the county council to get info on the area's demand. but who is the right person there

by: hillika

Sorry about the spelling and the swear word (hell). Had a glass of wine or 3!!

by: hillika

Never have a glass of wine and post a message! Paragraph 2, line 7, should read: determind NOT to do the same!!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 22-11-08 15:15

by: meg

Hi i would like to open my own nursery and how would i have to go about it? i have all these big plans but dont know where to start?

 

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 09-01-09 18:27

by: blacka's missus

Hi Hillika, i find your post so encouraging you seem to have great spirit and i feel the same way about having a degree to have your own nursery as you do. I have NVQ2 and NVQ3 in childcare and do not wish to return to studying to follow my dream. But i am going to take some of your inspiration and go for it this year!

 

by: loobyloo

Cheers for your help Hillika. I have looked in to doing a degree and it is so expensive unless i go back to uni... which i didnt particulary like hence why i didnt go back and finish my degree! its so fustrating. A degree doesnt make you a more capable person to look after children unless its a teaching/ childcare degree... what about the people who have a degree in geography, does that make them more competent?! aaaahhh! You sound like you have done really well! I hope i can get my teeth in to it and make a success too!

 Cheers Loobyloo 

by: Annie

go to www.headstartchildcaresystems.co.uk for help with management systems and independent advice

by: Laura McCartney

Starting a nursery is not the easiest thing in the world to do.  Myself and my colleage have started up a specialist agency called nurserymanagers.com.  We supply management staff for nurseries and also have a consultancy service for established nurseries and also new starts

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 14-04-12 22:12

by: Muriel Onakpoma

Helloh,

I am interested in setting up a nursery with a friend. We both have experience and qualification in Early Years. I will appreciate if we can get advised on how to go about starting.

Kind regards,

Muriel

by: deniz

hi i am a montassori teacher for 5 years, now i want to open my nursery in north london area, i have found the really nice church hall ( i had information from council about the area  there are 2 montessori schools around that area) but my problem is  how to start up could let me know where can i start and what to do? thank you very much and i hope to her from one of you

by: JJB727

hi i am a early years teacher who wants to set up a nursery from 0-4/5, i am just wanting any advice people can give me on how to do this thiswil be in the north eas uk, one question i need answering is f you need a nursery manager what qualification do u need and can i get them being a teache and where,

thanks for any help

by: Sweethoneybeeuk

Hello,

I'm so glad to find this website. I am considering buying a nursery and run it. Not for the profit, just to work for myself, making enough money to live, time with my baby boy and provide good childcare service that I can hardly find anywhere. I am looking for a mentor who I can get in touch for advice and encourage ment. I am sure you understand how difficult it is when you start out. Please get in touch at jennypotter81@hotmail.com. I really look forward to hearing from you.

Jenny

Becoming a nursery owner - 11-06-08 11:09

by: Berty

Hello Yes becoming a nursery owner can be daunting but well worth it. I had neither the time or the money to take a long course so i took a short course with a company called One To One Support Services.  The course was all the practical knowlage from the owner who was operational manager for a chain of nuseries so I gained a lot of insight in to the pit falls to avoid. The course was really good for me and boosted my confidence and gave me the kick i needed.

  

by: Leasar

Hi

We are two friends thinking about setting up a nursery. I am a early years teacher currently working in a nursery for 3-5 year olds and my friend is a nursery nurse. We are currently puzzling over how to start things off and would be hugely greatful for any help or information anyone could give us.

Thanks

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 28-09-08 12:22

by: Paul

Leasar,

 I see its been a while since you posted this. I opertae a company helping people who want to start their own day nurseries, I also have day nurseries which I am looking for people who can operate them. Please contact me through my website Childcare Business Partnership. I look foward to hearing from you.

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 01-02-09 07:56

by: sweety

hi,

lucky to have found u....am actually serious abt starting a nursery with low cost at first....i would like to get like in starting asw ell....also can i have more details abt u looking for ppl to operate the nurseries...

thanks

by: penny

hello

I have a question, and i don`t know whee to ask.

I`m a quaified nursery teacher with a diploma, but I don`t know if it`s enough to get a job here in the Uk, cos i`m from Hungary. can anybody hlp me?

thanks.

by: rizwana

hiya

i am a qualified nursery nurse and want to open a private nursery for 0-5 yrs. can someone please help me on how to go around this. how much will i need etc....

by: becks

Hi, i am just wondering if anybody would be able to help me at all. I would love to open my own nursery, i love being a round children an think it would be very rewarding, but i have no qualifications in child care and have never actually worked with children before. I have all the plans ready and have even found the perfect location and believe i can make it work. My only problems now are, weather i need to get the qualifications of any sort and which official people do i need to contact. If anybody could help me at all i would be very greatful. many thanks. Rebecca.

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 28-09-08 12:26

by: Paul

Becks,

 I run a Company helping people who want to start their own day nurseries.Please contact me if you think i can be of assistance paul@childcarebusinesspartnership.co.uk I look forward to hearing from you.

by: Padfoot

HI EVERYONE!!!

my name is jane, i have been working with children and families for over 10 yrs, i have a btec national in childcare, a BA hons in childhood studies and a post grad and masters in primary care mental health. i have done my webster stratton training and numerous other trainin in childrens services. Me and a family member have been discussing the idea of setting up our own nursey with SEN provsion..... could anyone help, give me any tips ETC... i would be really grateful as we dont really know where to start!!!

my email is groovyjaney@hotmail.com please feel free to email me or reply to this thread... i have also started a new thread :-)

 thanx in advance JP XXX

by: my only friend is the wind

It is shocking how many people want to open a Nursery and appear to want to want to tinker around and enjoy working with children whilst "not being concerned with making a profit". Nursery’s need to be run by people passionate about education and care - Yes. But they need to be run by people who understand how to setup and run a business. Profits (however small) are what allow you to buy new equipment ! Improve the environment! Employ better quality staff!, and remunerate them accordingly. The word profit in Childcare and education should not be a dirty word. Profits can, and should be reinvested back into your business.

A Nursery owner needs to understand payroll, tax and employment entitlements. Stock management and grant/funding applications. The owner must understand these things to ensure the financial integrity of his/her provision. The owner owes this to their children. Parents and staff. Many of your staff will rely on their employment for their own families. You have a responsibility to run your Nursery professionally and make it as financially viable as possible.

If you want to set up a Nursery and can’t be bothered with any of the above, get someone onboard who does, but remember the more work you do, the better chance of survival your business will have.

Do your research properly, and that means not online in a chat room. Contact the Inland Revenue, Business Link, Ofsted and your Local Authority Early Years team. Don’t rely on hearsay, information that is years out of date or information from people who have failed/or are failing abysmally.

Find out about business rates for your premises - before they cripple you, insurance, accountants fees, whether to be a partnership, charity or Limited company, what funding is available from you LA. Decide it you want to rent or buy, speak to your bank about loans. Write a business plan even if no one else sees it, do it for your self. Don’t forget to include National Insurance contributions and holiday pay in all your staffing calculations. Work out what contingency you have to keep your provision afloat in the first 2 years if take-up is slow. And check out property prices and rental costs where you want to setup. Find out if your Nursery, like many startups will fill up from the bottom up i.e. youngest rooms first.  Filling up in this way makes it expensive to run for obvious reasons and can take years before you reach capacity. 

Many areas have inadequate provision for early years because no one can afford to setup (property prices or rates). Unless you are cash rich it probably won’t be sustainable for you either.

Should you buy an existing business? Nobody knows the answer to that but you! Get some details of Nursery’s for sale near you. If they look interesting (and you can afford them) ask for the accounts. If you’ve never bought a business before - get an accountant. It’s the same rules for buying any business. Many Nursery accounts don’t stand up under close inspection - look for owner/managers who don’t take a salary but declare a profit in the particulars, the accounts will reveal this. Or profits where the owner has no borrowing against the freehold where invariably a new owner will. It won’t take a degree in rocket science to know whether it is viable under your ownership. What works for you may not work for the next owner so do your research based on your own circumstances

Good luck.

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 22-11-08 15:40

by: meg

hi im jan.       

im a 20 years old and for the last few years i have had in mind to open my own nursery but never new how to go about it. i konw the basic of what a nursery needs but was a bit lost to what qualifications i would need? could u please help me

jan

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 22-11-08 18:30

by: Maestro

If you can't work out the basics of qualifications, please don't open a nursery! I'm not trying to be mean but if you need to ask on a public forum what qualifications you need how are you goiong to work out the rest of it. Opening a nursery is far from basic, and there is a wealth of information for those that search for it, have you not even read this thread? It points you in the right direction!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 27-11-08 21:49

by: meg

hi im jan

i was hopeing somebody would help me out ? i have always wanted to open my own nursery but dont know if i need any qualifications? i dont want to work in the nursery but wanted to know if i needed any qualifactions to become a nursery owner? and what things i will need plz could help:

 MY ONLY FRIEND IS THE WIND

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 09-01-09 18:46

by: blacka's missus

Hi jan, you don't need a childcare qualification to own a nursery until 2010 as long as you have someone with a qualication managing it! Good luck :)

 

by: Maestro

Well said my only friend is the wind.

Dont forget to check out local nurseries where you want to start up. Are they full? If not, will you be certain on filling the places, or is the market already saturated. People are losing their jobs left right and centre at the moment and things are slowing down in the economy so you need to take the time to fully research.

by: joyti

hi all.im looking to buy a nursery as a running business rather than setting a nursery up from scratch.but can anybody point me in the direction of getting an ofsted certificate.im based in birmingham.thanks

by: Maestro

Try Ofsted.

Make sure you do your research wisely, theres a few too many nurseries in some areas.

by: jadey

Hi I am looking to set up my own nursery, I have been a nanny now for 4 years now and also worked in nurseries and school. I have plenty of experience and my husband to be is an insurance broker so he's very good with the legal side of things.

But I just want to know if anyone has any really helpful website links for people like myself wanting to start up their own nursery. I've been on business link a lot and found that very helpful but there is so much to get my head around yet I am very determind to acheive own successful private day nursery.

 Also anyone that already has a nursery or is setting up a nursery I also design and make bespoke websites, if anyone is interested please visit my website. www.digbyanddigbybusinesssolutions.co.uk.

Thanks

by: purepurple

this whole thread is really funny. It's like saying "I'm really good at playing football, can I buy Man Utd" The owner of the nursery where I work is an accountant.

by: Maestro

Hahahahaha my thoughts exactly purepurple!! Now I can bake.... career change....

by: newsetting

Deep breath.

 If I see one more "I want to open a nursery" threads I will scream. There is a whole host of information on this website and on previous threads. If someone cant be bothered to scroll down and search for the information then (and forgive me if I am wrong) I dont hold out much hope for them being able to run a business.

Purepurple.......are you one of my staff?!?!? I am an accountant (in my previous life ha ha)

by: purepurple

hi new setting, I could be one of your staff.  lol where are you? I am in the northwest

by: newsetting

no, im in south east! x

by: Maestro

awwww you two get a room!

Just Joking, I'm a half traianed accountant.... must be something in the water....

by: newsetting

haha!

Er, maybe its just that being an accountant was sssssooooooooooooooo boring!

by: purepurple

a half trained accountant, lol, that makes me laugh!

by: Milan

This forum has been very useful...and has answered many one my questions thanks....sky the limit xx

by: Milan

correction...

 This forum has been very useful...and has answered many of my questions thanks....skys the limit xx

by: carmenes

Interesting thread.  We are a group of investors who are looking to setup a nursery (pre-school) in prime central london (City, West End, Docklands) to cater for the professional market. If anybody is looking to setup such a nursery and is interested in a partnership or requires funding, please email investments@bstcapital.com

Chris

by: leanne26

hiya i just want some information really i am looking into starting my own business and i really don't no where to start, is renting a place better than buying it? and does anyone no have much it may all cost to set up?

by: Maestro

I love this thread, its like how many, nah I wont say it.

by: mickey

maestro i'm glad you have posted on here i did want some quick info from you.

Can you convert a church Hall Toa  day Nursery or not, just something i need to find out, can you help

by: Maestro

Depends on the premises. If its suitable then yes, if its not no. Grab a copy of the welfare requirements for a start in the right direction.

by: mickey

maestro, thanks for your reply, This is why a wanted to speak to you on this matter

All i know at this moment in Time, This was a Active christian  Church, But they shut, Due to increases and overheads, which they could'nt meet, The person thats put a bid in for it, is waiting for a viewing, He wants to open a Day Nursery, He knows what he is doing , as he currently ownes a nursing Home---

Maestro i'm sorry to ask this, But i need to as i'm un-sure when you say welfare requirements, I'm guessing this is a trip to the local council or the local children services, if im wrong, could you guide me on wehere i need to be going please.

many thanks Maestro - I Really appreciate your help and advice, I do value it, because i know , You know what your talking about,,,,cheers

by: Maestro

Your favourite people.... Ofsted

by: mickey

MAESTRO , My what

I've said before i love them , ummmmmmm Ok so i contact the devils own  love child , seriously though do i need to hit their web site, if so what would i be looking for, quick please tell me before i'm forced to eat my goldfish

(MIck Your at it again Grow up)

Ok Maestro do i need to ring them or can i get this info from their web site, again thanks for your reply, next time please don't swear at me though (OFSTED) lol thanks again

by: Maestro

Its on the web, or in your EYFS pack if you have one. Ofsted website has guides and alsorts so check it out.

by: mickey

Maestro, yea i have the pack, i will take a look, Thanks for all your Help and advice, i appreciate your help, many thanks for that

by: Helpful

hi everyone,

by: Twinkle22

I have just seen this thread and cannot believe the amount of people who think posting a note on here will give them all the required knowledge needed! I was made redundant from my nursery job a year ago (still havent got over it!) and I'm now working as a nanny. I lost my job because of poor money management - please don't think opening a nursery is fun and means you can play with the kids all day!!!

by: purepurple

I had forgotten how much I love this thread

by: Mandy

Its been i dream of mine to have a body like Demi Moore still hasnt happened. This thread is so funny

by: LittleKez

hi everyone,

by: newsetting

Where be my parrot then?

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-08-09 18:03

by: joshuajones

Aaarrrrgggh it be chewing on my wooden leg  !!!!!!!

by: Maestro

OH YES!!!!!

Walk t' plank ye horn swogglin scurvy dog!! Swim wi' t' fish!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-08-09 20:56

by: joshuajones

Don't make me Cap'n - there be sharks in that there water !!!!!

by: Maestro

A tas'ty treat fer the'r suppa ye be, ya landlubber! 

by: red sun

This thread has sent you crazy!!!! Lol

 Very funny though!!

by: Maestro

Only sea dogs be allow'd t' speak within this 'ere thread, away wi' yer, yer landlubber!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-08-09 21:16

by: joshuajones

Make the landlubber walk t' plank Cap'n spare me life this time, feed her t' fishes Cap'n !!! I'll polish ya hook, swab the decks anyting, spare me matey !!!!!!

by: Maestro

Get t' lass 'er quick! I is need'in me evenin entertainment aboard th'is 'ere ship ya lily livered scurvy dog! Then scub t' deck!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 20-08-09 21:42

by: joshuajones

Aye aye Cap'n I'm scrubbin !! 

by: Maestro

If ye canah read th' thread then 'tis th' wrong bis'ness fer ye. Now walk th' plank ye scurvy wretch....

by: red sun

lol!!!

by: mo

it is very hard to make childcare pay, staff wages, ins, daily running costs, equipment etc, i wonder if anyone has thought of starting a nursery that is a reg charity, that way you can apply for funding from various sources for, building, equipment, trips and even cars, you can still run the nursery but have a board of trustees who act as an advisory body, food for thought.

by: 'Old' Louise

Running as a charity?  Been there, done that as have a number of other settings in our area - and it can work well .  The main moan from managers seems to be that the committee/trustees rarely know anything about the complexity of running a nursery yet they are the people actually scrutinising/approving/vetoing the decisions of the manager.

As a trustee I can say that we do not act solely as an advisory body, we are the people responsible in law (and to OFSTED) for the conduct and running of the setting.  Being a registered charity, particularly for the kind of income generated by a daycare setting, is a huge legal responsibility - an, of course, trustees cannot be paid, it all has to be on a voluntary basis.

Mo, you are right, it is very hard to make childcare pay.  It is actually not that much easier to make childcare pay as a charity than it is as a business (I have done both) as your costs are largely the same (ie, mostly staffing).  It is true that you probably have a better chance of getting grant funding if you do not operate as a profit making concern, however, I have found that many funders do view childcare as a statutory responsibility now that Local Authorities have their new 'duties' and are more hesitant about giving money for that reason.  In any event, the main thing you need money for (running costs/sustaining the service) is nearly impossible to get.

 If you are thinking of setting up a nursery as a charity rather than a business, what role would you choose?   As a business owner you have ultimate ownership and control, as a charity, that control sits with the trustees.  You might want to be the manager of the setting, in which case you would be employed by the trustees - not your 'own boss'. You could of course be a trustee, however, if you need to earn money from your work in the nursery this is not an option.

If you look on the charity commission website you can search for charitable nurseries, look at their accounts (free and available to the public) and then look at some of their web publications concerning the responsibilities of charity trustees.

by: newsetting

Im a private business and I make money. Its all about planning, budgeting and having a bit of business sense. Not just being in it because you "love kids." Pretty simple really!

Am before you cane me for actually stating that I make "profit" (a dirty word for some people in childcare-never quite understand why!) my nurseries are outstanding, staff are paid above average and the settings are well resourced.

by: 'Old' Louise

No newsetting, profit is not a dirty word, not even for charities (except we call it a surplus).  Without it you can't re-invest and develop your setting, increase staff qualifications, employ an EYP etc, etc.  Also, without the prospect of profit it would not be a very attractive proposition to sink your life savings into any sort of business. Also, without some evidence of surplus, charities actually find it difficult to attract any backing from funders.

In our area, we tend to find the only people willing to run nurseries in disadvantaged areas are charities, many of whom set up under the Neighbourhood Nurseries Initiative which gave 3 years of financial support at the outset as the prospect of making profit was too slim to attract people wanting to set up as a business.  In these areas it requires constant vigilance to balance the books - as you say, planning, budgeting and having business sense - but the making of money in these settings is, unfortunately, anything but simple.

You are correct in that, loving children does not make a good, sustainable nursery - just as loving chocolate does not make a viable sweet shop.  I just wouldn't want anyone to think that setting up a nursery as a charity is an easy alternative to business.

by: Margos

Hayley set this thread off in 2007. Hi Hayley, how is your dream coming along?

by: purepurple

I think she be swimming with those there fishes. We fed her to the sharks long, long ago. Aye, so we did.

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 06-09-09 15:50

by: joshuajones

Ooooh arrrgggghhhh so we did !!

by: Maestro

Sh' did ma'k a fine anchor so sh' did! An' mighty tas'ty arms wit' potatas! Hmmmmm

by: lisa harris

hi there i am currently a childminder ( new )

i want to open a nursery of my own but i have no idea where i start, although i know i need to research the market for locations and what is wanted for certain areas ect but i have no idea what qualifications i need orthe steps i need to take before i look for a premises.

if somebody could help me i would be most grateful

kind regards

lisa x

by: Philip Tull

Hello

Although not in a relevent field of employment personally (I'm a photographer) I am inetersted in the possibility of setting up a nursery locally where I know there is a demand. I am a governor at the local school where my two children attend, and my wife helps run the local Playschool. I have read a lot of the advice on these forums but wondered what the most important first steps are, and whether there were people out there able/willing to help and advise evry step of the way etc..? from the legal qualifications you need to the financial implications involved. In this instance I would need to raise finance for construction in conjunction with the local school for instance and don't know if there are funds available to help there, if for professional services?

Many thanks

Philip

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 16-10-09 21:21

by: whmon

Hey Phil, I can help you. First thing is to ignore comments from this site. Contact Nursery World who will give you my email. Chin up.

by: Jess Lancey

Hi, My Name is Jess Lancey and i am currently studying child care at college, i have wanted to work with children for my whole life and have grown up with 6 brothers. i have done a lot of work experience and by the end of this year, i will have worked in a special needs school, a nursery and 2 primary schools. i am hoping to open up my own nursery once i have finished college and have wanted to do this for a long time. i only got a D in maths and failed to achieve a C when retaking my GCSES. i am hoping this will not affect my chances of opening up my own nursery. i was just wondering if you would give me some more infomation about opening up my own nursery for example, the costs, the risks, the qualifications needed and the benefits. this will be much apprieciated :) thank you so much. could you email me please at x-xxjay_jay_jessxx-x@hotmail.co.uk

by: Maestro

Liz, still no curse effects, but I'm crossing my fingers so we can use it!!!

by: Monica Munoz

Hi I am new to this page and i am very interested to open a nursery. I would like and really need a lot of help and info about how to do so, mainly with funding. Please send me an email any time.

I will really appreciate all your wisdom and support.

thanks

Martha

by: louloudi

When opening a nursery you really do need to think it through.  Im going through a bad experience at the moment as 3 months ago I was employed as a Nursery Manger for a company ran by a school and 3 months in there is no money to pay wages!! The service does not offer what other nurseries can and therefore 3 months open we have poor occupany levels and funding hadn't been secured!!  I'm now having to deal with issues that should of been done before the nursery became operational  basically basic business admin

by: Melanie Phillipson

Hi all, I am a qualified SEN nursery nurse. I would like to set up my own nursery for children with communicational difficulties. Although I am having big problems with funding, as well as an adequate setting. Please if anyone can help, please get in touch. Many thanks Mel

by: Assessor

I am surprised that noone has written a ste- by- step guide.

When I get the chance to, I'll post a step - by- step guide to opening a childcare setting.

I hope it will help you all acheive your 'dreams'.

It's ashame that people get into the childcare field to 'make money'. Children deserve the BEST care and those who don't have a clue about childcare can SERIOUSLY cause great danger to the innocent children.

Regards,

by: Reenie Blessed

Im have too like many other on this site got a dream to open up my own early years setting, if there is anyone on here who does not mind giving guidence to myself i would love to here from you.

Guidence on where to start and even answer many question i may have into this path i would be so greatful.

cookies_kream24@hotmail.co.uk

Regards

by: Flossy

Ha ha ha Maestro, joshuajones you are so funny. I nearly wet myself laughing reading that, chuckle!!!! I think it should be used in every thread the same as this!!!

by: newsetting

Is this thread really still going......yawn!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 08-11-10 23:26

by: Flossy

double Yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by: Maestro

Aye! Th's should b' a sleepin' wi' t'fishes in Davey Jones' locker...

by: Flossy

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Maestro ha ha ha ha ha ha ha love it i need to learn pirate asap!

by: nrc

by: newsetting

I am giving serious consideration to setting up my own consultancy service for people looking to set up their own private day nursery-some help with policies, procedures, guidance on planning regulations, ofsted registration, recruitment etc. In fact, maybe i should just look at franchising....i already have four successful settings......hmmmm.

I can see a market for it.

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by: newsetting

Ive just realised this thread is actually two weeks older than my middle child! Blimey, didnt realise it had gone on that long!

by: Childcare_Tom

Nursery owners have been providing their advice and thoughts on the topic 'Opening a nursery. Would you do it again?' on our blog if you needed further advice or wanted to join the discussion.

Our poll at the end of last year also indicated that only 15 % would recommend opening a nursery!

by: Poonam Sawant

joshuajones

Would like to have details on how to start with Day Care/Nursery setup in Dubai.

PJS

by: purepurple

newsetting, maybe you could use old threads to find customers for your consultancy business?

No, who would ever do such a thing!

by: newsetting

Purepurple........as tolerant as I am, even I couldnt work with these people!!!! Seriously guys, SEARCH THROUGH THE THREADS! AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH

by: Early Years Chat

DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could not advise this strongly enough.......... this is a terrible time to enter this market. Nearly every owner I know is stressed, sick, fed up and wanting out of this business.

Really........ there are far better ways to earn a living!

Sorry

by: Laura

I have recently registered for a two day  course on setting up your own nursery with nurserymanagers.com as I am new to this industry and am in the process of purchasing a nursery i thought this might be helpful - will let you know how it goes

by: CJ

Hi Laura

whereabouts are you based?

by: Julija Gokovaite

Hey guys! I would love to open up a private nursery, i have ideas and I know what i want but I don't know where to start from...? someone please help me...any ideas and advices will help. my email is jgokovaite@yahoo.com

thank you!!!

by: Nisha1979

Hi, I am hoping to open a Montessori nursery for children aged 2-5. I am really stuck in how to look for a suitable premises. I have called around local halls and have had no joy. I would really love some advice from anyone with any tips on where to go from here, especially anyone with some experience in Montessori. Please can you email me on nisha49@hotmail.com. Thank you

by: A Ag

Hi All

Like all the other people who have posted on this thread I am also keen to start my own nursey and the reasons are the same... love for children, making a difference etc etc. 

However, one of the things that is bothering me is how financially rewarding is running a nursery. I do not mind the long hours (as I already work 60-80 hours a week) but since this is going to be my main sourse of income it is important that I earn well to maintain my standard of living.

A lot of people on the forum are not that concerned about money but for me a financially well run nursery is an indication of a professionally run organisation that is able to pay its staff well and look after the children well. 

Now i know amount of investment and profits is dependent on a number of factors e.g. location size of nursey, age mix etc. But i am keen to hear from other owners their experience of financial returns.

Assume that my nursery will be located in London, around 50 kids 0-5. Average fee between £1,00-1200 p.m. with no grants for govt. located in an affluent area. 

What is the ballpark inital investment required and what kind of profits can I expect?

by: 'Old' Louise

I don't know what level of income you need to maintain your standard of living but from experience you are not going to get rich on a single 50 place setting.  However as my experience is not London based I am happy to be put right by others who operate in that area.

by: A Ag

Hi Louise

Thanks for your response. I dont plan to get rich ... just get by comfortably :-) which for me means arount 50k a year net profit. I will definately look to expand from more than one nursey after successfully setting the first one...

Other experiences will be very useful.

thanks

Abhinav

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 22-07-11 20:15

by: joshuajones

Lower your expectation to half that amount and you will probably be more realistic !!

by: Leanne McDonald

hi, i am new to this website and would like some advice on how to start a nursery? i have no idea where to start but its been a dream of mine and i am very determined and i have the experience. Any advice would be of great help.

Thank you

by: CJ

suggest you search the forums and then develop a business plan

by: Courteney Donaldson

If you are thinking about acquiring your first nursery, or establishing your own setting, keep an eye on http://www.christie.com/blog

An introductory article will be posted shortly.

by: alejandra montoya

Hi i am currently living in london and i have completed my level 3 in childcare and education, i speak english and spanish. my dream is to open my own bilingual nursery, is there anyone that can give me advice on how or what i need to do, also i am worried that there is no profit, i have two children so money for me is importnt too, i want to know how much profit you can actually get. i am very new to this so every piece of advice helps. e-mail me if posible j-maria@hotmail.co.uk

by: sasparella

Hi.  I am a school teacher and looking to start my own nursery with a colleague.  We are currently looking for a premisis in the N.East.  We need to write our business plan however we are unsure which format to use, does anyone have a format/plan we could look at, so we are on the right tracks??

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 02-09-11 16:45

by: Liz

Nursery World has a very informative article on writing a business plan in the next issue out on Tuesday (it will also be on the website in the management section. Look out, too, for the next issue of Nursery Management, free with NW on 20 September, which has lots of advice on starting and running nurseries.

by: rachael black

i heard from a manager who runs a nursery by doing it as sessions as opposed to full time daycare. What i would like to know is how she gains a profit from this as the feesare not very expensive for a few hours, yeet she has stated shes managed to make a nice income was just wondering how that route is feasible and has anyone done it that way?

by: Lienka Bugs

Hello ,
 
I have been in childcare business and looking after children for a while now.
I have decided to try to make it on my own and stop working for others.
This lead me to making a decision and follow long lasted dream to open multilingual nursery in the Dulwich or Wimbledon area for 0-5 years old.
With this email I am wondering and also would like to ask anybody for any comments , advise or help where possible,please.

I have qualification as well as experiences in childcare and management.
Thank you in advance , kind regards and nice day , Lenka

by: CJ

make sure you understand P&L, balance sheets, employent law, H&S, food safety etc or can surround yourself with people who do!

make sure you have a big pot of money to get you started

set a budget then half it for the worst case scenario and work on that basis!

by: Carol Cooper

I have triplet boys and we live on a working farm, farming is in a bad way so we decided to convert our farm buildings, we set up a 20 place day nursery including 3 babies (1997) we now have an 74 place day nursery! In 2001 we opened a second day nursery at Robin Hood Airport, Finningley Doncaster, this started as a 46 place nursery and we have now expanded to take 84 children. We also run an out of school club and holiday club. So if you are thinking of opening a nursery just email me and I would be delighted to give you loads of free advice. My email address is carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 08-10-11 12:33

by: michelle lord

Dear All,

Iam a mother of 5 beautiful children and work full time as a primary school teacher. I have always wanted to open my own nursery, specializing in special needs. I have no idea where to start. Is it possible? Any advice would be welcome!

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 10-10-11 09:25

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Michelle

send me an email and I will email you lots of free advice. My email address is carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk

by: kaz (the first one!)

We have a special needs setting as an extension of our main preschool. We apparently are the only ones in the East of England??? Ofsted have not heard of this before (nothing new there!) SEN settings are very few and far between because the ratios are so high and the fees are not! Luckily our main setting is able to subsidise the SEN setting.

by: tracey werrbel

Hi all, I am currently working at a playgroup which is a charity run setting, Can anybody tell me if and how I would go about buying this setting to run as an business?

by: CJ

is the charity seeking to sell..and why?

what is the basis of chartiable status- ie what are their aims?

by: playpal

If the group is run as a charity I think you'll find you can't buy it. It will have a charitable constitution and be registered with the Charities' Commission. Even if it could no longer operate (eg no-one to be a trustee/run the committee/no children) the Constitution would have to be formally dissolved and the assets distributed to other local groups with a similar objective (or the assets sold to provide redundancy funds etc).

Many playgroups are run charitably and this is a common misconception - that they can be 'bought'. If your group is a member of the Pre-school Learning Alliance (most are) you could contact their HQ for further information.

Likewise, charitable groups cannot be 'taken over' and run by - for example - schools. They have their own charitable status established usually to provide care and education for local children at as a low a cost as possible. It would be like Cancer UK being taken over by Tesco - to give a very extreme example!

by: tracey werrbel

Thank you for all you help :)

by: laura murphy

i am looking to open up a day nursery in th north east of the uk after 7yrs in childcare and could do with any helpful tips or information anyone may have for me. i have 2 foundation degrees in childcare and plenty of experience just need a little help in making it all happen! is it best to buy a house n convert into a nursery or buy an existing one? 

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Laura

Send me an email and I will answer your questions and send you some free advice: carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk It is not an easy job but can be very rewarding we have 2 day nurseries and are thinking of opening a third.

Good LucK!

by: sunshine1

Hi I am new to this website, so hope you can help.  The nursery we use and have been using for 5 years is under threat from closure.  This is due to lack of children currently in the nursery - there is also probably some finaical aspect to the propsosed closing too.

However over the last week my husband and I cant understand why it becoming a failing business as it is in an ideal location, fantastic premisis, and has some good staff (and of course some staff which arent so good). 

It has been an interest of mine to start a business and was wondering about taking this on as a small business in the hopes to turn it around again into a profitable and busy day nursery.

Obviously our first step is to speak to the current owner and see what their current position is.

But, I would be keen to understand more about the inital setting up of a nursery and how best to go about recruiting more children and how best to advertise vaccencies. 

I dont have any childcare qualifications (very willing to undertake the EYF degree and further training) as my background is nursing.  My husband is a bit more business minded.

Anyone any ideas?

by: Theresa Butt

Hi there, I have been reviewing the threads here and there seems to be a large amoutn fo experienced nursery owners on here. I am looking to set up a nursery in leicester and really after some advice on where to start and how people choose their areas and did masrket research to find out whether there was the client base for the nursery.

Thanks Theresa

by: Nafeesa Hussain

Hi

I am really intrested in opening my own day care nursery but do not know where to start and this is where i can do with all those experienced managers and owners out there.

I would like to know where to start from any adivce would be greatly appreciated.

my email address is nafzz_786@hotmail.com

thank you

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 06-12-11 13:47

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Nafeesa

Hope you found all the information useful.

Good luck with your venture

 

Carol

by: Reena Borsana

Joshuajones or carol cooper I would be really grateful if any of you could give me some advice on how to start up my own nursery or what to do or even maybe a step by step procedure??? I know it's a lot to ask but I really need the help please I have no idea in what to do or where to begin :( 

by: Reena Borsana

My email is chillwithreen50@hotmail.com thank you 

by: Ali

Hi I currently work in a nursery i've been in childcare for 9 years now and recently completed my degree in early childhoos studies. I would love to own my own business not sure where to start really.  I've done some market research but now sure where to go next. I have left my email address and if anyone could point me in the right direction that would be great. Thank you for reading this reply alisonpink9@hotmail.com 

alison

by: CJ

do you have funding to open/purchase your own nursery?

what management & business operations experience do you have - payroll, employment law, property management etc?

by: Reena Borsana

I have no management experience I could go do a course? I am a primary school teacher and have worked for 5years iv worked with early years and key stage 1 also where could I get funding from? I have savings or could get a loan? 

by: CJ

you need to do a plan - funding will be limited and may notbe offered if you have no nursery mgt experience- you may have to give personal guarantees

training will help but lenders value experience

by: Lienka Bugs

It looks like there is more and more of us out there thinking or hoping to open up our own set ups - nurseries ... I am also one of them. I have started to do my business plan and done some research. I have been in childcare business since 1995 , have experiences as well as education + a t of money to go with it. I dont have management experiences in a nursery settings ....   any other possibe advice what to do next and where to go ? thank you .....

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 03-01-12 13:19

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Lienka

If you need advice on setting up a day nursery then please visit my web site www.settingupadaynursery.co.uk and then send me an email: carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk I will email you some advice to help point you inthe right direction.

by: raramoo

I cannot stress how much you need to have some management experience within nursery.  There are so many plates to spin and balls to juggle that it is very easy to become overwhelmed and under pressure.  If you have the money to start up then I would strongly suggest in the first instance getting yourself a very good manager or a very good deputy if you are insistent to run it yourself.  Either way you need to be certain that the person you choose has alot of leadership experience and motivation.  I would strongly reccomend you not being manager as your workload as an owner will be enough to cope with.

by: CJ

emai lfor advise

info@acornexcel.co.uk

by: Petra Holla

Hiya, 

I was wondering if there is anyone who could give me a few tips with opening my own nursery (2 - 5 years) maybe combined with after school club as well. I have worked with children for over 5 years now and it is my dream to have my own nursery. I just have no idea where to start or how much it costs, if you can get any finacial support - all that. But I am determined to work hard. I live in Oxfordshire and I am aware there are already lots of nurseries.

Unfortunatelly I don't have any qualifications. I work as a TA at a local school, the little of qualification I have is like safequarding, first ade courses etc. 

I would really preciated if anyone would be kind and could advise me how to start.

Thank you very much. 

Petra

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 06-01-12 14:30

by: Carol Cooper

Petra did you read the post below???!!!

by: R Williamson

Hello, Childcare businesses range from small home based operations to large commercial centres and can be started from as little as a few hundred pounds. You also have a tremendous amount of flexibility when it comes to the services you choose to offer.  This website is very useful www.howtostartanursery.co.uk

Many thanks, Rebecca

by: Childcare Video Expert (CVE)

Hi, I am Childcare Marketing Consultant and  I will be willing help any one with Marketing their nursery after setting up. My strategies as  always worked and will always work if you follow my step by step guideline. Its worthy try!

Send me an email if interested

marketingchildcare@gmail.com

by: Em B

Hi

I am currently a primary teacher and have wanted to set up my own nursery for a few years now but bit scared to take the jump! I am unsure if my teaching qualifications will be enough to own and run my own nursery? or how to go about even setting the nursery up. I would really appreciate some advice or information as I feel I dont know who or where to turn to for help! any help really appreciated :)

Thanks

Em

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 01-05-12 18:06

by: david hodgson

hi check out this new website all to do with nurseries and finding nurseries its really helpfull

by: VC

Hi all

I am at the starting blocks putting a business plan together to open a nursery, ideally in Autum 2013. I hope I haven't cut the timescale too finely. Its nice to see on this forum that people are willing to share the benefit of their experience.

I just wondered if anyone has any tips on how to go about finding premises (or indeed an existing nursery for sale)

Many thanks

VC

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 18-10-12 14:34

by: Juggling Clown

hi i am selling my nursery drop me a line at firststeps@tiscali.co.uk if you want to look at a nursery in the real world?

by: Blossom

What location are you?? Scotland, England or Wales??? I opened a Nursery last year in Edinburgh, Scotland, it was a long process but worth it - if i can help and give you any tips i would be more than happy too.

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 29-06-12 20:07

by: scotsnursery

Hi Blossom

Just reading your post that you opened a nursery last year and you would be happy to give tips. I am in the process of opening which has been a massive learning curve and still got a way to go!

I wonder if you have any advice on recruiting a manager? The main problem I have is that I am still waiting to hear on planning permission but I want to get a manager lined up so I can get the ofsted application completed and be ready to open as soon as we have permission and have done a couple if weeks fitting out.

Any advice on how you handled the timings of all this greatly received.

by: Muriel Onakpoma

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all your ideas about setting up a nursery. I have learnt a lot from the thread, from what I have read so far I can that it requires knowledge, planning and also determination. I am planning to set up a nursery with a friend next year. Can anyone advised me on the basic things to put in place before getting a premises. Looking forward for any idea.

Muriel

by: Hardeep Guaraya

Hi,

My husband and I want to open our own nursery, I have researched the foundations, the pros and cons and does and dont's but it all seems a bit hazey.

I have currently completed a level 3 teaching assistant couse, but feel as though this isnt the right path for me. I wish to open up my own nursery as i believe this will be extremely rewarding, and i can give children the support they need to make a start in life.

This was a small dream that has suddenly grown and with the help of my husband and family i believe this can come true.

I have no daycare qualifications or experiance, and understand i can not manage but am able to buy a property to convert into a nursery, as i am willing to gain these qualifications once the nursery is up and running, and understand that i must have qualified staff working for me.

DO I NEED ANY QUALIFICATIONS TO OPEN A NURSERY, NOT MANAGE ONE...

BUT HOW DO I START? WHAT ARE THE FIRST STEPS.. I would prefer to speak to someone who has the experiance not just websites.. so if anyone has any information please dont hesitste to reply..

Regards,

Hardeep

arctic_fox@hotmail.com 

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 25-10-12 18:13

by: Maureen Askew

Hi if you still need someone to talk to email me with your contact details and we can arrange to have a chat. 07791552767

by: Nursery Mark

You do not need any qualifcations to manage one, however remember that starting up a managed setting increases your outgoing costs as you are having to employ an extra member of staff.

Have you considered taking a year out and completing your level 3 fulltime. This would allow you to be included as one of the staff in ratio on the days that you need that extra member of staff, and also cover holidays etc. This would also give you a good insight into Nursery provision, and allow you to ensure that when planning out the design of a Nursery you are keeping the EYFS etc in mind.

Just a thought.

by: Hardeep Guaraya

Hi,

I have already completed my level 3 as a teaching assistant, but if i was to be included as a member of staff will i need further qualifications within a nursery setting?

And would anyone know any sites or people to contact for further information on running a nursery?

Regards,

Hardeep

by: dixie

I can't remember now which bank i went to but they provided me with a great checklist that went through all the legal requirements which you have to do from registering with companies house to obtaining a license to show DVD's. It was invaluable. The LA can help too and can be very helpful once they know you are really serious and Ofsted are there of offer advice as well. Some LA have a lot of advice on line for anyone interested to access, for others you need a secure login. Some run training sessions which are reasonably affordable, then there is the NDNA and the Pre School Learning Alliance. What none of them can tell you is where to get that initial funding if the banks won't support you. You might need to put your own home on the line but before you do that check out how many new nursery business's fail in your area!!

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 25-06-12 12:25

by: Lisa Oakhill

Hi Dixie 

You seen to know what u doing lol and wondered if I could ask u some advice!! I'm thinking of setting up a nursery from home as I have a 23month old little girl and I can't afford child care so it will be a good way of me earning money!! How would I go about the cooking cause there will be a lot of prep etc to do and I need to be with the little ones and not sure how I'd afford a chef or if they would just need to come for a few hours a day etc!! How can u keep the cost down for the food too cause if seems like I'll be buying lots???

Thanks chick

X

by: Hils

I think you should consider providing home based childcare as a registered childminder. Contact your LA for information on how to access training to register. After you have completed your childminder training (running your own business, EYFS, Safeguarding, First Aid, child development) etc, you then apply to Ofsted. They will then decide how many children you may care for in your home dependent on the space you have available. You have to be prepared to invest in your business and purchase a range of activities which will meet the EYFS requirements and the individual children in your care. You will also have to get a CRB check and a CRB for any other person in your household aged 16 or over. Its alot of work, but worth it! (I think preparing meals will be the least of your challenges; alot of childminders cook the night before.

by: Lisa Russell

Hi Joshua,

I am looking to startup a Nursery and would be very grateful if you could send me information about the process.  I have found a building to run the nursery but need to know if I now need to register on the child protection register with ofsted, do I contact my local council.  Please help

Lisa  email:daynursery2012@hotmail.co.uk

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 30-06-12 23:45

by: Esra Al-Doujaily

Hi all

I am currently working in a nursery and have level three in childcare and i am looking to get a degree in childhood and youth studies in early and primary years. I would love to open a nursery but would like some advise on what is the best way to do this? 

whats the main procedures, and can anyone advise what settings is best to use?

any information would be useful

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 06-07-12 13:27

by: Carol Cooper

Hi Esra

email me for some free advice on setting up a day nursery:

carol.cooper@settingupadaynursery.co.uk

www.settingupadaynursery.co.uk

KInd regards

CarolCooper

 

by: Maureen Askew

Hi I'm not sure when this was posted but if you want to email me on maskew533@btinternet.com i'm sure i can help. i also do a childcare business newsletter you may find useful

by: clare moloney

Hi

My friend and I are currently in the process of putting together a business plan to opena nursery. She has the necessary qualifications and currently works in a nursery. I am currently a serving police officer with previous childcare experience, as well experiece in finance. Its our aim that i will look more after the "business" side of it and she will concentrate on caring for the children. The biggest hurdle ive found is somebody being prepared to divulge costs. ie, rent, business rates, gas, electric. Really the overheads and fixed costs we would be looking at per month. We would be looking to offer care initially for 2 to 5 year olds, between the hours of 7.30am to 6.30pm with premises and staff to cater for 25 to 30 children. Would somebody be willing to share their costs with me or give me a rough guide as to the monthly running costs? Ta

Clare

RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 15-08-12 00:52

by: whmon

You can email me if you would like to, I will give you a full break down of my costs - but it may well put you off the idea. There is no profit in nurseries unless you have a chain. Even, then your money would be wisely invested elsewhere. Beware!

RE: RE: RE: Becoming a nursery owner - 14-12-12 13:04

by: A_Wal

Hi Whmon

On what email ID can I contact you to get costs breakdown as I am pulling a business plan togather and am looking for some guidance.

thanks

by: Laura Henry

Clare, please feel free to email me? I have an example which I use within my training and when coaching Owners. 

laura@childcareconsult.co.uk :-) 

by: Rooney Zeus

Hi Guys!! if you want to become the owner of nursery school then first of all you need to child lover because I think if you love child then you can plan different   strategy for them is pre nursery school to make them  happy. And you need to create a environment where every child wants to spent more time and feel comfortable, I think if use kids toys and other thing in school so then can do study with playing games also.

by: whmon

Where are you from Rooney?

by: Leah-Student!

Hi, I am just starting my GCSE's and want to start my own nursery as soon as I finish University. What A-levels and Degrees will I need to be able to do this.

Thanks!

by: Maestro

None

by: Maureen Askew

Hi this is an extremely long thread with lots of people looking for help in setting up a nursery, it would be really interested to know how many actually opened a nursery?

by: lefulesele mosoeu

Hi

I am planning to open my own pre-school but have no clue on how to go abt it.

Have a university degree in Development studies and currently persuing another degree in psychology.

please help me out

by: Liz

I'm sure others on this forum would also say - have you read the exisitng threads on the subject?

Many would also say - if you don't have a clue where to start, then you should think again about doing this as it is extremely hard work, with very little profit in many cases. And, of oucrse, you need to know what you are doing! If you really think you want to go ahead, then you need some good professional help.

Maybe start by reading the National Day Nurseries Association's free factsheet on starting a nursery

by: Maureen Askew

It surprises me how many people looking at opening a nursery have no idea about how much it can actually cost to set up from scratch, let alone run until occupancy increases to a reasonable level and I think its fair to say unless you are opening in an area which has no or very little childcare and demand is high, reaching optimum occupancy can take years and not months as forecast in some business plans I have seen.

I agree with all the comments about it being a hard job, gone are the days of nurseries 'raking it in', but not unfortunately the misconception that you are still raking it in.

As a nursery owner today you have to be financially savvy and have a certain about of business acumen, a huge number of independent nursery owners opened their nursery because of their love of children, with very little business knowledge or experience, leaving them very vulnerable in this economic climate. The Childcare sector as a whole is beginning to realising the huge need for business support as well support to raise the quality childcare.

Opening a nursery needs extensive quality market research, an excellent business plan, financial forecast based on realistic figures, a marketing strategy and sufficient funds to ensure cash flow can be maintained during the first 18 to 24 months. Lack of cash is one of the main reasons any small business fails.

If you are going to open a nursery do get some professional advice.

by: donna pelletier

Hi, I would not be able to offer advice that hasn't  already been given but in case its been missed I do believe that there us a grant available  for New start up nurseries . The post was  on  the Nursery World website . I also posted it on my facebook page kidsplaykit .  Think its only a small amount but every little helps .

by: Rebecca Ross-Simmonds

Hi there,

I am in my 2nd year of a Foundation Degree but aiming to top up to a BA hons in my 3rd year. I agree with Maureen that many people who want to set up Nurseries may not be completely business minded or aware of the set-up costs. I know (like many) that I have an absolute passion for working with children and that I work incredibly hard at keeping afloat with all the areas of the EYFS, paperwork, planning etc that I have to complete as a Childminder, as well as my degree but I don't know much about the 'other' side. I would say most people are either 'children orientated' who want to open a nursey or 'business minded' and you are really lucky if you possess both qualities. It would seem the best route would be to find someone to work together and compliment! A degree course doesnt prepare you for the business and financial side of things. You become very adept at reflection and good planning lol! Thank you so much to the people that have put on links to help as I find with so many Forums that people are quick to shoot you down if you want to do aim for something. I would love to open a Nursey when I graduate but I will be in lots of debt as I have to fund my degree so I don't know how I will fund it, we will have to see and in the next year and a half I will do as much research as I can x